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wasabi_poptart ([personal profile] wasabi_poptart) wrote2005-11-02 11:15 am

sex versus success

Excellent NYT article courtesy of [livejournal.com profile] alero

What's a Modern Girl to Do?

(too long to repost; use www.bugmenot.com)

I wouldn't trade my independence, my power, my money, and/or my autonomy for all the push-up bras in Towson Town Center. I'm the luckiest girl I know.

[identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The article, among other things, seemed to really come down on Feminism; that somehow it was leading us in the wrong direction or was a smokescreen or a cruel hoax.

Funny that just under [livejournal.com profile] whiskey_poptart's posting the next poster from my friendslist had this to point out.

[identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com 2005-11-02 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
PS- I don't know the poster; her LJ was cross-posted. Though it is amusing that her userpic would suggest the non-make-up wearing hippie-type tht seems so derided by the more appearnace-oriented. I'm not advocating one way or t'other. Bit I will say that my personal experience has found the hippie-non-expecting-the guy-to-pay-for-dinner-types in much happier relationships/partnerships.

[identity profile] wasabi-poptart.livejournal.com 2005-11-03 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
too much is being made of the who-pays-for-dinner issue

honestly, what's the big deal?

any guy who would begrudge his date a meal, or act like paying for dinner is going to nominate him for a Nobel prize, isn't somebody I want to spend time with anyway. THAT'S ALL.

as [livejournal.com profile] forexample put it, the right guy can make Taco Bell a romantic dining experience.

[identity profile] weegoddess.livejournal.com 2005-11-03 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
any guy who would begrudge his date a meal

Not to put too fine a point on it, but that's exactly what I meant. You still expect him to pay. Not paying would be begrudging and implies stingy. And yet, it doesn't seem like you wouldn't hold yourself to the same standard. Not the paying, but the expectation therein.

I get the impression that a lot of ladies are looking for a relationship for what it can do for them, and not an actual partnership of give and take. Good luck, but they ain't ever going to find what they looking for. At least, not with a man who is anything but a yes-dear-pushover.

the right guy can make Taco Bell a romantic dining experience.

Apparently, only if he pays for it. ;-P